So, Obama has clearly been irked lately by a large part of the American population. According to polls almost 1/3 of Americans believe Obama is a Muslim, and a similar number believe he has something to hide about his birth.
Obama’s flippant response was “I can’t walk around with my birth certificate plastered to my forehead all the time.”
Surprisingly, even on the news sites where I’ve seen this covered, the most common response to this quotation is something like “No, Barry, you don’t. Ten minutes would cover it if you allowed hi-res photos of your actual long-form, doctor-signed, witnesses in attendance birth certificate instead of the short-form copy which is not actual proof of anything.”
And that pretty much sums up my opinion on the whole “birther” thing. Obama’s camp continues to say that Birthers are “liars” but the real lie is coming from Obama’s camp, and that lie is that the form they have provided is actual proof of anything. This seems like such a clear-cut and obvious thing to me that it astonishes me how many people seem incapable of grasping the concept.
As I have always said, the whole “born in Kenya” thing doesn’t really matter to me, but the continued effort to paint people with a legitimate question as nutcases does bother me tremendously. I am really sick and tired of Leftists lying by calling people they disagree with liars. But they continue to get away with it, so I suppose they’ll keep doing it.
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Follow-up comment rss or Leave a TrackbackI agree, it’s too late now if he isn’t eligible.
He’s hiding something, a big smelly something that he doesn’t want the world to know. I find it troubling that the media doesn’t care about all the things hidden. Why isn’t the “legitimate” media digging. If Obummer was a Republican, we would know how may pimples on his posterior by now.
Heh. I remember when I was labeled a “kook” for stating the obvious.
My position on this has been the same from day one. Obama’s hiding something, but as far as I’m concerned his Presidency is as legitimate as any other President at this point. It’s not like you can turn back the clock and unsign all the legislation that has been passed.
Unfortunately.
Yes, you can, if he is not a legitimate natural born citizen of the USA, he is in vioation of the law to run for President.
Therefore all legislation, all executive orders, and anything with his name on it as President is null and void. He has no legal authority.
Now whether is a a chain smoker from Kenya is another story all together, that has not been proven in our very weak courts that usually like to make up laws whenever possible except when the president they all voted for is concerned.
esox,I’m no constitutional scholar, but I’m pretty sure that whatever the rules are about being allowed to RUN for President, once you’ve passed those hurdles successfully and are duly sworn into office, there is no constitutional mechanism for a “do-over.” Yes, you can be impeached, and I’m sure impeachment proceedings would begin if Obama could be proven to have been born in, for example, Kenya, but his existing actions are law now. If you want them erased, you’ll have to enact new law to remove them.
That’s my take. It would be an interesting SCOTUS case to be sure.
Oh, and there would likely be cause for indictments of the individuals who are supposed to ensure that an unqualified candidate doesn’t get on the ballot in the first place.
Obama did not get the scrutiny that McCain got. McCain was born in Panama at a Military Hospital in the Panama Canal Zone. A senate panel had to ok his birth as Natural Born. Why was Sen. Obama’s Birth not scrutinized either? I have not a problem with him being born in Hawaii. Why is he is hiding the Long form of his birth certificate?
I am no constitutional scholar either, but let me just say I have read it, more than a few of our so called leaders can claim and still think our constitutional republic can recover from this bout of socialism.
Giving states back the rights they are suppose to have and term limits are a start. Requiring a course in accounting would not hurt either. Not the kind they teach at Arthur Anderson either.
That being said, if this ever came to pass that our president “from Kenya and smokes” is proven not to be a natural US citizen, I cannot imagine that virtually very law he signed especially heath care would be challenged as a valid law, and I have seen skinner cases run up to the supreme court.
esox, it will almost certainly be challenged, but it will only take one SCOTUS ruling on one law to settle the issue. And it is inconceivable to me that the SCOTUS would open up the can of worms that ruling the law unconstitutional would create.
But that’s just my take. I tend to view things very simply and in this case anything other than “He was the President while he was the President” gets absurdly complicated, and people don’t like that sort of complication.
I personnally think that if Obama was illegitimate in anyway then the Clinton Machein (TM) would have ferreted that out during the primaries and used it. But I also think that he is hiding something, something potentially embarassing that would be reveiled by his actual birth certificate.
This embarassment could be any number of things that go against the image he has tried to project.
Perhaps the Certificate would list his race as white, or his religion as muslim, or his name as Barry Sotero or a different man as his father.
Any of those things would be in contrast to the image he has constructed and must be buried by him.
staylor, I’ve voiced similar suspicions, but I also think it’s just that the long form is one of those that could be submitted by a relative without actual proof of birth in the state, and that would just escalate the speculation without proving anything one way or the other.
I don’t like conservatives taking that tack though, because regardless of what he might be hiding or where he was born – these aren’t the real reasons we oppose him (at least I hope not – they are pretty shallow reasons – a gotcha game, nothing more), and we shouldn’t be trying to play games like that.
Making actual arguments against his actual ruinous policies would be a far better use of our time, and it would make conservatives come off as less vindictive nutcases.
I’m a birther, and not ashamed to say so. But, I have also considered the “embarrassing information” angle, too. It’s one or the other. Obviously.
And, I don’t believe that laws/executive orders, etc. would be void.
ASEI, that’s a major reason I don’t attack Obama based on his birth. However, every three or four months or so I find myself fed up with the lies of the Left and thus a post like this one is born…
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